I think you mentioned in a different comment before, but this is going “slightly” different than the first time we saw this isn’t it? The first time we saw Commedia Vogue, she seemed more, “Oh, this again…whatever.” than “Godammit I’m here again, I’m going to be creepy.”
Philosophically this is very interesting. Time is a continuum, right? So all points in time exist all at once. It’s the same in this Universe that I have created. However, as I grow as an artist and revisit these points of my created timeline I made little tweaks here and there. So the question is, as below so above? In other words if our creator can do the same (stand outside our timeline and visit points at his leisure) does he make little tweaks here and there when revisiting?
http://weshadows.com/archives/525
Just checked the first time this happened. The dialogue is the same except Vogue’s comment of “Here Again? Might as well give it a shot.”, which was said out loud in the first time and only thought to herself here.
Also, something I noticed. Last time the story was from a general perspective, mainly from the view of the current Cosmo and Vogue. This time however, it’s from the view of the Vogue being yanked around by Puck’s spell.
Since we, the viewers, are viewing things from Commedia Vogue’s perspective, is that the reason the mask looks different this time? To the Cosmo and Vogue right now, they only see the plain mask on her face, while Vogue and us see her with the more expression-full mask?
Quick question: Did you change the facial design to have more expression than the previous design. I ask because I think I remember the older version not having a mouth piece or eyeballs but I don’t know (didn’t want to go back so far in the beginning. I like both designs either way 😛
I also don’t remember Vogue having any dialogue to the “ladies” (especially if you didn’t have a mouth) but I don’t care, better this way. I’m just wondering… time travel is pointless to try and understand, and you already tried so hard to explain to idiots like me… @_@
Sorry, I just clicked on Vincent’s link to the previous encounter so I can’t be lazy anymore, I was wrong 😛
But if Vogue knew she would lose after seeing the event happen again, why go on with it? Is it because she’s insane (seriously).
And thanks Vincent for an explanation on the “mask topic” 😀
Well, it’s been obvious for the last few pages, but I think it is time to say it now anyway: Called it! Of course, the fact that you followed my comment with “Shh!” could be taken as a confirmation anyway. 🙂
I’ve sometimes wondered how much more complicated it gets to write a story if you insert time travel into it. Especially if it forces you to keep these points into the story in advance. Then again, I doubt that the writers of Futurama planned to revisit the night Fry got cryogenically frozen as many times as they have done.
Have you thought about having an indexed archive of chapters or something? I would have liked an easier way to find older scenes, like the first version of this scene. Or is it too much work?
I have definitely thought of having a better archiving system…hell, just for me when I am writing and I need to go back and check something.
I do like the faerie nature of this book. As Wendy said in the intro to We Shadows “nothing goes in the direction you expect it to or flutters before your eyes more than an instant.” Throwing in time travel just made it more so. Of course now people are getting used to this fae form of story telling and soon every piece will be in place and I’ll have to find new ways to confuse.
I noticed the same thing, and was about to post a correction myself — with an excuse. Like the change in the mask, maybe it has to do with the point of view. Since Cosmo has already lost her crown in Commedia Vogue’s time, maybe she can’t see it.
But you’ve already gone and fixed it, I see. Oh, well. I still won’t waste the perfectly good explanation I came up with.
I think you mentioned in a different comment before, but this is going “slightly” different than the first time we saw this isn’t it? The first time we saw Commedia Vogue, she seemed more, “Oh, this again…whatever.” than “Godammit I’m here again, I’m going to be creepy.”
timey wimey stuff…very complicated
Philosophically this is very interesting. Time is a continuum, right? So all points in time exist all at once. It’s the same in this Universe that I have created. However, as I grow as an artist and revisit these points of my created timeline I made little tweaks here and there. So the question is, as below so above? In other words if our creator can do the same (stand outside our timeline and visit points at his leisure) does he make little tweaks here and there when revisiting?
http://weshadows.com/archives/525
Just checked the first time this happened. The dialogue is the same except Vogue’s comment of “Here Again? Might as well give it a shot.”, which was said out loud in the first time and only thought to herself here.
Also, something I noticed. Last time the story was from a general perspective, mainly from the view of the current Cosmo and Vogue. This time however, it’s from the view of the Vogue being yanked around by Puck’s spell.
Since we, the viewers, are viewing things from Commedia Vogue’s perspective, is that the reason the mask looks different this time? To the Cosmo and Vogue right now, they only see the plain mask on her face, while Vogue and us see her with the more expression-full mask?
I like that explanation. Let’s go with that
>.> sweet
Okay… NOW this makes sense (visual learner)
Quick question: Did you change the facial design to have more expression than the previous design. I ask because I think I remember the older version not having a mouth piece or eyeballs but I don’t know (didn’t want to go back so far in the beginning. I like both designs either way 😛
I also don’t remember Vogue having any dialogue to the “ladies” (especially if you didn’t have a mouth) but I don’t care, better this way. I’m just wondering… time travel is pointless to try and understand, and you already tried so hard to explain to idiots like me… @_@
No she did have the same dialogue.
Sorry, I just clicked on Vincent’s link to the previous encounter so I can’t be lazy anymore, I was wrong 😛
But if Vogue knew she would lose after seeing the event happen again, why go on with it? Is it because she’s insane (seriously).
And thanks Vincent for an explanation on the “mask topic” 😀
You are correct
Well, it’s been obvious for the last few pages, but I think it is time to say it now anyway: Called it! Of course, the fact that you followed my comment with “Shh!” could be taken as a confirmation anyway. 🙂
I’ve sometimes wondered how much more complicated it gets to write a story if you insert time travel into it. Especially if it forces you to keep these points into the story in advance. Then again, I doubt that the writers of Futurama planned to revisit the night Fry got cryogenically frozen as many times as they have done.
Have you thought about having an indexed archive of chapters or something? I would have liked an easier way to find older scenes, like the first version of this scene. Or is it too much work?
I have definitely thought of having a better archiving system…hell, just for me when I am writing and I need to go back and check something.
I do like the faerie nature of this book. As Wendy said in the intro to We Shadows “nothing goes in the direction you expect it to or flutters before your eyes more than an instant.” Throwing in time travel just made it more so. Of course now people are getting used to this fae form of story telling and soon every piece will be in place and I’ll have to find new ways to confuse.
And yes, you definitely called it.
Shh
Can there be two Pucks in the same universe? I wonder…
Hmm…
It’s me or Cosmo doesn’t have a crown on her forehead? Wich is not like the first time.
What are you talking about? She has a crown…JK…good catch!
I noticed the same thing, and was about to post a correction myself — with an excuse. Like the change in the mask, maybe it has to do with the point of view. Since Cosmo has already lost her crown in Commedia Vogue’s time, maybe she can’t see it.
But you’ve already gone and fixed it, I see. Oh, well. I still won’t waste the perfectly good explanation I came up with.